Useful or community trading?Which one has worked for more?

[hsmip]

I open this topic because I have been wondering if you really trading is a lonely path or if you share ideas with others, it makes the difference.Do you prefer to operate alone or in community?Have you served to join groups, channels, forums, discords, etc.?Personally, I have tried both and I am not sure which one is better.Sometimes I feel that the groups influence me too much, other times they save me from mistakes.How do you live it?

[shimigeabu]

Operating is only the only way to evolve.When you are in groups, you end up operating the ideas of others.And when you lose, you don't even know why you entered.The community is good to learn, but there is a point where it only hinders.

[mayelgu]

I found my style thanks to a group.They helped me understand things that would have taken me years.The trick is to know and not closely follow anyone.There is a lot of ego in this world, but also people with a heart that wants to help.

[femmeimo]

Trading communities are full of sale and inflated egos!Everyone is right until their account explodes.I prefer to be wrong only to be dragged by a herd of blind.And no, your telegram channel with signals is not "education."

[NagejgaGc]

The first months I clung to groups.They gave me confidence.But when I started to do backtesting and wear my own diary, everything improved.The truth is that you need silence to refine your intuition.Now I use forums just to discuss ideas, not to look for setups.

[hsmip]

And what do you think of traders who say the community is key to growing emotionally?That without emotional support one bursts ... Does it make any sense of emotional marketing?I have felt it, I will not deny it.But I am interested in knowing if someone has held a losing streak only thanks to the community.

[pkmmessalinas]

The community served me at the beginning.But there is a point where only you understand your system, your tickets, your schedules.Sharing is fine, but operating in solitude is inevitable if you aspire to excellence.Or are you also asking for help every time you see a red candle?

[mog123]

I continue in a private group of six people with whom he operates years ago.We all have our style, but we review together certain areas and macro data.There are no alerts, there are no signs.Only ideas.I wouldn't change that for anything.

[Fanny87]

Loneliness is dangerous if you don't know how to manage your emotions.I have seen people lose fortunes for not having who to talk to after a bad streak.Having a healthy community can save you from mental collapse.But eye: "healthy", not toxic or fanatic.

[jofeve]

Do you know what happens in the groups?That all are geniuses after the fact.No one publishes the shit.Nobody tells you "I ate a -80 pips."All are cracks.That is why it is better to learn to think alone.You will save many frustrations.

[hsmip]

That happened to me a lot ... people who disappear after losing and only return when "they broke it."As if that were useful.Thanks for sharing, continue that this is getting interesting.

[cammefoum]

I have been on both sides.And the truth, nothing is compared to the mental clarity you have when you operate alone and there is no one to blowing ideas every 10 minutes.It is another dimension.Lonely?Yes. Productive?Also.

[hugomm]

I need to talk to someone, even if it is "what a Mier market today."I don't look for advice, I just don't want to feel that I'm in a cave.A silent community, without egos, would be my ideal.

[Jommok75]

Training community?What are you talking about, of those groups where everyone repeats the same about ICT, SMC, and then sell you a course?Thank you, but I pass.I prefer to keep my Excel and my Japanese candles.

[Moloco]

Once I was in a group where we analyzed weekly our operations with brutal honesty.I learned more in 3 months there than in 2 years of reading books.The problem is that this type of groups almost does not exist.Everyone wants to sell you something.

[hsmip]

That is another topic that I want to open here: why does every group end up being a prelude to sell you something?It begins as "help" and ends in "Premium mentoring."Can't you collaborate unintentionally with each idea?

[Llcamlv2510]

Because this is Forex, friend.90% do not win, but 100% want to look like an expert.And the only money they see is that of other naive traders.This is how this ecosystem works.

[mbp2000]

I set up a private community with 3 trusted colleagues.Each with their style, without selling anything, without posture.We only share analysis, losses, profits, and doubts.The best thing that happened to me in years.

[clipe]

The ideal community is your trading newspaper.That is your best conversation, the one that really is worth.The rest is noise, unless you are starting and you don't know what a SL is.And yet, there are better ways to learn.

[gabifm26]

It helped me a lot to have a mentor during the first six months.I corrected entries, he taught me management and how to think about stages.But then I understood that I had to fly alone.There are times for everything.

[Moclligag]

There is no better school than burn your fingers and lose an account.There you do not need a community, you need humility.And that does not give it to you.Everyone wants the magical pill, but nobody wants to read 100 charts a day.

[seiocv]

The community is like a gym: it can motivate you to go, but in the end you lift your weights.If you do not train alone, you do not evolve.And the market does not forgive decorative muscles.

[leogio77]

It depends on the stage.When you start, you need guide, references, validation.But when you have experience, what you need is silence to think better.A lot of noise kills intuition.

[hsmip]

Totally agree.I think it also depends on personality.There are traders who need to share to grow and others that are blocked if they have too many voices around.Good contribution, keep adding!

[mokijlle]

I open alone, and talk to my dog ??when I have doubts.At least he doesn't charge me mentoring.And no, it doesn't go wrong.

[hsmip]

There is something that is not mentioned much: the "Groupthink" in the communities.Sometimes everyone begins to see the same, to think the same, and when the market goes against, they go into mass to the ravine.I lived it in a Telegram group.Literal, all long in Eurusd, all liquidated in the same candle.

[pammeg]

That happens more than people admit.Confirmation bubbles are dangerous.That is why each one must have their bias and validate it with their system, not with the enthusiasm of a group.

[Paaquiilaaaalaaalaaa]

The community helped me discover patterns that I did not see.See how others look at the graphic opened my head.But of course, not everyone contributes, many only repeat Instagram phrases.

[Gilmaen27]

I got to a discord "Pro" and in the end it was a zoo of gurus without results and beginners without criteria.I ended up wasting more time reading nonsense than operating.

[momopc]

A good community is like a good coffee: it awakens you, it activates you, but if you spend, everything trembles.Use it in moderation and do not depend on it to operate.

[hsmip]

Curious how many start in community and end alone.It makes me think that trading is like a mountain: they can accompany you for a while, but you go up alone.

[vaxxejo11]

100% agree.Although it sounds poetic, it is real.Important decisions in front of the Tomás Solo screen.Nobody tells you when to get out of a drawdown.There you are and your management.

[alexgefmupks]

Sometimes groups only serve to complain together.All crying because "the market is manipulated."What loss of time.Better to operate in silence and assume errors as an adult.

[agusyloli]

The most honest community I found was a small forum in English where no one presumes.They only share operations, errors, and processes.Without fuiro emojis or false results.

[Silvixi20]

I learned more by reviewing trading newspapers than chatting in groups.The true value is to see processes, not motivational phrases.

[hsmip]

Interesting everything they are saying.I see that there is consensus that the group can help you if you know how to filter it.What does not work is the cult of guru.

[Geoxlu64]

Exact.If the group revolves around a single person, you are screwed.That is not a community, it is sect.And when the guru is wrong, everyone goes to the well.

[elpelok77]

It happened to me: I followed one who looked like a genius until he did 10 operations in a row in loss and disappeared.No one said anything.There I understood that I have to think for myself.

[Enmiqw77]

The groups can be useful, but only if you share with traders that do not tell you what to do.The best taught me to think, not to copy.

[luigi2287]

Sometimes it is best to build a group with two or three people with whom you have chemistry.No more.When there are 200 people think, it becomes a circus.

[hsmip]

And what do you think of trading live streams?Do they provide something real or is it only entertainment?

[pampano]

They serve if the trader explains its logic, management and context.If you only show tickets and boast results, it is pure show.Real trading is not for YouTube.

[Pepe]

I follow one that trades live and explains everything.I learned a lot.But it is difficult to find that kind of content.Most are just marketing.

[Ganjalek]

I saw one that traded in demo and said it was a real account.When they confronted it, the channel closed.So we are.

[JFmieben]

The problem is not the community, it is what you expect from it.If you enter looking for signs, you are fried.If you enter to learn and share, you can grow.

[hsmip]

Another question: How do you choose who to follow?What indicators make them trust that someone really knows?

[Gabipkmmexx1]

If you don't show your capital curve, pass.If you never admit mistakes, pass.If you sell before teaching, pass.Basic filters

[james11cook]

I only follow those who document their process with transparency.I do not need millions to win, only they are consistent and consistent.

[NANGO19]

It is easy: if it seems too good to be true, it is.Spot.

[eliwzwzem]

Sometimes the best mentor is the one who does not presume.The one who makes you think, not the one who tells you what to do.

[hsmip]

Has anyone tried to bring your community trading diary, sharing everything, day by day?

[nago]

Yes, and it's brutal.It forces you to be honest, exposes you.But that also makes you improve faster.

[lmolomo]

I could not.It generates anxiety to show my mistakes.I prefer to take it private until you have more confidence.

[momemomegaylgea5]

I share my diary with two traders friends.We give ourselves feedback every Friday.There is no better improvement system.

[shykaibiza]

I am not interested that anyone thinks about my trades.I already have enough internal criticism.The market already humiliates me alone.

[hsmip]

Hahaha, that last was good.The market as a personal coach: rude, direct, and without compassion.

[pilamoxeslme]

I would say that the market does not teach you anything if you don't know how to ask you questions.That's where a good community can help you.

[Pancami]

And you can also make you more idiot if you fall into the same biases as all."If everyone is long, it must be a good idea" ... error.

[Casalpmim]

There are communities that teach you to think, others that only teach you to continue.The difference is abysmal.

[fleavius]

At the end of the day, if you need constant validation, you are not ready to be independent trader.Learn to trust you and you will stop depending on the crowd.And if you still want a group, make sure it is not a farm of illusions.

[hsmip]

One thing I never understood: why in trading groups anyone talk about losing?Everyone seems to always win.Where are the stops, the bad gusts, the burned accounts?

[angel060490]

Because admitting losses is how to confess weakness.There is too much ego in this game, and that kills transparency.But those who win in the long term, those do tell you about their shit without problem.

[Semgiopk11]

I learned more from my drawdowns than from my green gusts.The difficult thing is not to win, it is losing without going crazy.And that is not talked about because it does not sell.

[anaminiok]

The losses are part of the game, and whoever denies it or does not show them, lies or is in demo.So simple.

[lake11]

I prefer to follow someone to show a real -7%, with explanation, than to one who only publishes green screenshots and shouts "To The Moon!".

[hsmip]

Sometimes I feel that if we were all more honest, this ecosystem would have fewer scams and more real learning.But of course, that does not generate clicks.

[Pegmolmog]

It does not generate clicks but generates respect.And in this industry that is worth more than a thousand false followers.Credibility is won too.

[Miquisan]

Once I published a month in negative and several of the group told me to "stop operating."It is sad, but the average trader only respects profits.Casino mentality.

[jeffgmeams]

That is why he operates in silence.Neither screenshots, nor stories.My account and me.Whoever wants respect, respects the process.

[luoxmi]

In this world everyone wants money but nobody wants the process.And the process is uncomfortable, slow and many times painful.

[hsmip]

Do you think that the “100 to 10,000” challenges help or only generate stupid pressure?

[palaylokso6]

They serve for likes on Instagram.To learn to operate, no.They are ego marathons, not technique.

[Hoxmqwz]

I made one and served me to realize how bad I managed the risk.I burned it in a week.But I learned.

[hemle72]

Only if you already have a solid base can be useful as a challenge.If not, it is a direct path to frustrate you for not fulfilling a silly expectation.

[bhomj]

No one uploads the video when he loses the challenge.You only see the one who achieves it once from 100. And that is not statistical, it is marketing.

[hsmip]

Let's go back to technical: Do any of you change your system depending on what you see in the groups?

[Yesenay11]

Never.What I see in groups filter as an idea, but I do not change my rules for someone I don't know or their equity curve.

[Jesu2520]

It has happened to me.I see a strategy that seems to work, I try it two weeks, I forget mine, I lose and again repent.Lesson learned.

[paulbammllogomwz]

Changing the system for what a stranger says in a forum is like changing your diet because a stranger on Twitter said the rice fattens.Good luck with that.

[inessanchwz]

Use groups as supermarket: grabs what serves you, leaves what you don't, and never eat what you don't know how to digest.

[hsmip]

Phrase of the day that last.It should be attached to all the monitors they are learning.

[migwlpecas]

The key is to have criteria.If you have no criteria, it swallows you any fashion.And in trading, fashions last less than a 1m candle.

[gaby]

I have been operating Price Action for three years.At that time I saw fashions such as ICT, Order Blocks, SMC, Wyckoff, and they all return to the same point: if you don't know how to read the context, they do not help you.

[Angmeea.2]

The best strategy is what you understand.The second best is what you can apply without breaking your head.The rest is noise.

[noelaymv93]

It worked for me to stop looking for the perfect strategy.Now I just look for consistency.Perfection is the enemy of progress.

[hsmip]

How do you handle information overload?Among networks, forums, videos, and signals, sometimes I feel saturated.

[alex1987mm]

I turn off everything.Once a week I disconnect from the noise and I only check my own data.Nothing like listening to your own capital curve.

[Lgoxm]

I filter everything with a question: Does this contribute to my system?If it does not, outside.So be the most famous YouTube trader.

[Zafma33]

It is easy: if after seeing something I want to operate without reason, I close it.That is not analysis, it is addiction.

[Pelimioja]

Trying to follow everything is the perfect recipe for analysis by analysis.Choose two reliable sources and voila.Quality on quantity.

[hsmip]

Last question of the day: do you think it is possible to live from trading without selling courses, signs or making content?

[lajuami]

Yes, but it is a long, silent and lonely path.It is not seen in networks because it does not generate attention.But it exists.

[Luis123luck]

Of course you can.But not everyone wants that.Many want to "live from trading" while teaching others to translate.Market ironies.

[mubengij]

Not only is it possible, it is healthier.If you depend on selling courses to earn money, then you are not trader.You are a seller.

[cami77gl]

There are good educators, yes.But those who live only from their trades are not debating here.They are trading.

[hulky]

Living from real trading is like professional surf.You don't do it to look at you, you do it because the sea is your place.The rest is show.

[hsmip]

Thanks for sharing so much value.This thread was brutal.And the best: without smoke.We will continue to keep it that way.

[Giugilla91]

Of the best threads I've read.Raw, real, and useful.Do not miss in the meantime garbage.

[unam1999]

If someone just begins in this, to read this thread three times before opening an operation.He will save tears.

[payapkm]

And if you don't understand anything that was said, you don't operate yet.Because this is true trading, not what they sell in Tiktok.Chatgpt says: [Removed by moderator]