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Re: Is your broker really regulated? Watch out for ghost licenses
I open this thread to share a personal experience and warn about a practice that is becoming more and more common among certain brokers: ghost licenses. Many traders think that by seeing a beautiful logo that says regulated by X they are already sure, but the reality is that several brokers are showing expired licenses, or worse, completely invented. I will not say names for the moment, but I do encourage you to magnify the registration number and search the regulator’s website if the broker really appears there.
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Thank you for the ad. Do you have any concrete examples or are you throwing fear into the air like many do in this forum?
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It happened to me with one that was said to be regulated in Estonia and when I went to the register there was not even the name of the company. I reported it and it still works. Shameful.
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Some brokers are only "registered," which is not the same as "regulated." That trap is classic.
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Exactly, that's another important point. Registration regulation. Many websites say registered in FCA but that only means that they sent papers, not that they are supervised or audited. A real FCA regulated broker has license number, sanction history (if there were any
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Look, in the end, it's the fault that's not reported, it's all on the internet, but people prefer to believe marketing and then cry.
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There are offshore brokers who treat you better than those regulated by ESMA. What matters is how they operate, not the paper.
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That's a dangerous argument. Justifying them to treat you well while you operate with someone who can disappear tomorrow isn't exactly smart.
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You lost money and now you come to evangelize or what?
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No, they didn't rip me off, but I almost realized it in time, and if I open this thread, it's so that someone else doesn't fall like a fool into the same well.
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I always use brokers with CySEC and FCA. They won't be perfect, but if you mess up I have someone to claim.
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And what good is it to claim if it takes two years to give you back something?
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There is a broker that boasts regulation in Seychelles. I checked and the regulator there has no website with a public search engine. It’s like trusting your money to a mailbox.
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Many confuse being on CNMV’s list with being regulated. It’s not the same thing.
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Add another: some brokers clone the license number of another real company. You put the number on Google and you get a company headed in London, but the broker operates from a tax haven.
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That's serious, that's already bordering on the criminal.
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It happened to me with one who claimed to be regulated by ASIC and when I went to check it was a company with a very similar but completely different name. A dirty but effective move.
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Can we put names or this forum also censor certain sponsors?
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I got blocked off a post weeks ago for naming a broker, so you better use initials or erase everything.
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I find it regrettable that we have to speak with fear. Where is freedom of expression if you cannot warn others?
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To those who defend brokers without real regulation: are you going to pay the customer when the company disappears with their money? Because that’s what happens. It’s not paranoia.
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Newbie traders see a nice platform and low spreads and they already think they're on Wall Street. Then come the crying.
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Useful thread. Most people don’t review the broker’s domain. There are almost exact copies of famous pages.
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Once I opened account with one that had Caribbean regulation and WhatsApp support. A week they no longer answered me.
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The serious regulator is the one that has: continuous supervision, complaints system and compensation fund. If you don’t have that, it’s wet paper.
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I have worked for a broker and confirm you: many times the regulated logo is put by the graphic designer. So sad.
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And what about the IBs that send you to ghost brokers?
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Totally. There are IBs who live on commissions and send people anywhere to get their cut. They never ask if the broker is safe or if the funds are segregated.
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It's about time for a clear talk about the financial chiringuitos camouflaged from brokers.
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This forum should have a black list of brokers, just like some regulators. It would be very helpful for the new ones.
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That's not gonna happen because a lot of those brokers sponsor banners and pay advertising.
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The worst thing is that when they are discovered, they simply close, change their names, open another website and continue to steal the same.
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And the forums are still full of fake accounts promoting those sites. No one moderates them?
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I've seen professional traders on YouTube recommending unlicensed brokers, all because of the affiliate link, no shame at all.
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I have a personal rule: if the broker doesn't have a real phone service or a physical office, I don't put in a euro.
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If you can't talk to a person in five minutes, how are you going to trust their capital?
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A serious broker publishes his audit and has segregated accounts.
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What a good thread, I wish more people would share things like that and fewer photos of invented winning trades.
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Thank you for the contributions. I am glad to see that I am not the only one who cares about this. I will open another thread with a list of steps to verify any broker.
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Many would fall less if they had a simple verification guide.