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    Wow! Due Rabid... This advice is very much apprieciated.
    Ditto and ditto... Wow. Discuss going to bed smarter than when you woke up...

    Seems like there is just so much that can get posted on a thread like this 1 w/o becoming redundant. It begins to enter obscurity. Maybe a redo in the Forex Articles segment of the Rookie Discussion ? Or a better solution I am unaware of? Sticky?

    It's simply too great to lose or fade off.

  2. #12
    There's one more thing that comes to mind...

    When looking at a broker's IP address you can learn a lot by seeing how many other machines they may have. Clearly if what's on a single machine, this server is likely to get overloaded, probably in the worst of days. It's also more economical, a business with 10 servers is more likely to stick around compared to a company that has 1 or 2.

    So we can search around...

    First, by registering at
    website:sitename.com

    Into google we can find out what's indexed on their website. Just take a quick scroll thru the list and write down any subdomains you visit (http://www.whatever.com, the www is a subdomain. Much like fxtrade.oanda.com, the subdomain is fxtrade). As soon as you have this list, do an nslookup...

    Nslookup:
    http://www.webmaster-toolkit.com/ns-lookup.shtml

    Do one for each of these subdomains and notice if they have the same IP, or if there's multiple IPs. A number of IPs usually means that there's more than one server, altho one server may have more than 1 IP, usually you'll just see 1. Surely if all of them have the same IP, or if there's just 1 subdomain, then there's a fantastic chance they have only have 1 host.

    You can conduct the same research on MT4 servers too. Is your host name. If you can not find the server name, it's in MT4, in the config directory sprinkled in the .srv files. If you open it w/ notepad, it's a bit cluttered, but at the top you'll see stuff like: ibfx-mt4-07. Interbankfx.com:443

    That lets you know the name of the host. Additionally, it tells you the scheme, there's prolly an -06, and -05, etc.. If you can not find it like this, you can always simply log in the way you normally do, then go into the command prompt with win-R cmd and type netstat (minus the quotes) into the box and hit enter. That will print out a list of anyplace you are linked to.

    You may also do a class C search, such as here:
    http://nerdlabs.org/tools/revdns.php

    For example the IBFX host is 66.114.120.37. It'll search 66.114.120. * to see what's there. What you'll see is no additional MT4 server, although a SMTP servers. Which sends up a big WTF? Since I visit mt4-01. Ibfx.com in another file. So why are not they there? Since in the event that you undo that IP, which is 66.114.120.31, you'll find it does not really reverse to anything. Let me explain...

    mt4-01. Ibfx.com 66.114.120.31
    But...
    66.114.120.31 goes no where.

    It's configured to get a 1-way installation just. That's very telling. While it does not mean anything about their business, it does tell you that their IT folks have overlooked this key detail. Would you wish to spend a million dollars with a business who is IT folks miss potentially important particulars?

    Of course from that we also have the naming convention that they use for servers. And with that we can find out that they have several servers.

    It's also somewhat telling, should you do the google search then look thru those subdomains, they have a japanese language version at jp.ibfx.com, but the website resolves back to the identical netblock (66.114.120.27). In otherwords their japanese language host is situated in the US. If you look at their spanish version website and solve it, you receive the same IP, 66.114.120.27, and their main website is 66.114.120.26. They have 1 host for most foreign languages, and odds are it's the same machine as the main server.

    Should you do the netblock research from sooner you'll see they own the entire 66.114.120. * netblock, or atleast it's registered to them. A tracert will tell you that their upstream provider is, viawest.net. They're a co-loc centre. Basically ibfx has purchased a few servers from them together with a netblock of all IPs.

    They do not only have servers sitting in their basement (which is good), but it explains why they find it tough to reboot their servers... because if their remote desktop stinks , they must call the co-loc and have them perform it. Explains why a 3am reboot in the EU open requires an hour. I wouldn't want to be that community technician, lol.

    Compare that to oanda... 216.12.138.246

    Everything you get is an entire collection of all servervault servers, as you'd expect. The last chunk...
    Inserted Code 216.12.138.207 #91;url=http://nerdlabs.org/tools/\\ns1.oanda.com#93;ns1.oanda.com#91;/url#93; 216.12.138.210 #91;url=http://nerdlabs.org/tools/\\rates.oanda.com#93;rates.oanda.com#91;/url#93; 216.12.138.211 #91;url=http://nerdlabs.org/tools/\\fxserver01-ma.oanda.com#93;fxserver01-ma.oanda.com#91;/url#93; 216.12.138.212 #91;url=http://nerdlabs.org/tools/\\fxserver01.oanda.com#93;fxserver01.oanda.com#91;/url#93; 216.12.138.213 #91;url=http://nerdlabs.org/tools/\\news.oanda.com#93;news.oanda.com#91;/url#93; 216.12.138.216 #91;url=http://nerdlabs.org/tools/\\fxtrade-news.oanda.com#93;fxtrade-news.oanda.com#91;/url#93; 216.12.138.217 #91;url=http://nerdlabs.org/tools/\\www.oanda.sg#93;www.oanda.sg#91;/url#93; 216.12.138.239 #91;url=http://nerdlabs.org/tools/\\oandabl01.cust.servervault.com#93;oandabl01.cust .servervault.com#91;/url#93; 216.12.138.242 #91;url=http://nerdlabs.org/tools/\\oanda02.cust.servervault.com#93;oanda02.cust.ser vervault.com#91;/url#93; 216.12.138.243 #91;url=http://nerdlabs.org/tools/\\oanda01.cust.servervault.com#93;oanda01.cust.ser vervault.com#91;/url#93;
    Shows that they clearly have several servers. While they have some servers that don't undo back, they have a few that do too. Certainly their IT folks are more dilligent about enrolling a reverse DNS back to your own provider. However they do not own the entire netblock.

    Perhaps they do not need one tho, why would you invest a small fortune leasing an entire netblock in case you don't plan to use it? There's perhaps some prudence there. You could look at that both ways.

    All and all you have a good idea about what makes both companies tick from a technical perspective. Some of this can tell you how stable the company is, others simply tell you how stable their servers are. Both are decent brokers, but both have their issues.

    Let's compare this with, say, crownforex.com. 75.126.213.131. A google search shows all their overseas translations are on http://www.crownforex.com. I see just 1 server . If I do a reverse of 75.126.213.131 I flip up the co-loc name of their host, instead of a crownforex.com domainname. That means that they do not have much (if any) clout with their co-loc provider. It requires time, money and technical ability to acquire a reverse DNS to operate, and the simple fact that others have done this, and they have not, that's very telling.

    Should you reverse it to si-sv2361. Com and visit this URL you get Invalid Hostname. If one server was in that place, it wouldn't need a server redirect. That suggests they're sharing the host with atleast 1 additional domain name.

    Should you operate the class C search you receive a lot of softlayer.net servers. If you go to softlayer.net they have prices on their
    front page. You might get a server on their network for under $200 per month! Not much of an investment when they're asking to be a broker.

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