Thread: Lets talk future and solutions

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a solution?
What about changing the whole economic model out of a debt based, to a source based...
http://www.thevenusproject.com/

I don't know if I'm sold on this. However, I appreciate your article and applaud the fact that someone took the initiative and say oh well, that is how it is.

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I am not promoting religion in any way. But I recommend practicing the islamic finance. This means interest loans and banks share teh risk with all the lendees in terms of company loans and other things.

I know not all of'islamic' banks follow exactly what the sacred book have asked the muslims to practice, but I believe islamic finance as ordered in teh Quran will solve this fiscal shit.

Just as an aside comment Hilmy, I would like it if you should post more. I read lots of your articles before I signed up on FF. Something that you think about.

And I completely agree with the concept Called Islamic financing. I believe it's only an issue of terminology. If it had been called shared liability financing for example. Something for your marketing people in institutions to figure out.

I see that as a potential solution. Hilmy was appreciated by much!

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nicely Jay,
It seems I am not the only one with quite pessimistic perspectives regarding human character! I wish it weren't the way, but
you cant deny the clear.

Fenlander, I recommend you have a look at The Video Store thread. I started it and put a lot of links there to what is allegedly pessimism porn. I'm also a contributor to Marc Faber's Gloom Boom Doom newsletter. Hardly upling substance when Bloomberg calls him Dr. Doom. They also call Schiff and Roubini that and I'm a fan of the two.

But I digress. It's nothing new that things are poor and it's easy to wallow in pessimism.

Pardon the language, but the top plants grow on the worst piles of shit.

But now that we know that it stinks, let us discuss the plants we can grow.

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It appears that more folks are considering breaking loose from the societal system that has been in place since civilization began. Have not people discovered that for the past 5000 years society has always been structured around oppressors and people being oppressed. We've been conditioned and lied to and we continue to perpetuate this arrangement. Now although in my opinion religion played a part in producing this arrangement the rich have taken over its reigns.

I grew up at a holic household and spent my high school in a seminary. So you literally preaching to the choir.

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The answer lies in determining why humans plogically can not recognize this. If a few do there are fewer who are motivated enough to do anything about it. Venturing into the unknown is enough to put off most people from thinking about the implementation of a new social network.

To summarize it, people like to be safe than worry free.

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Also on a marginally related note, why are people chastised for not voting when sometimes the most appropriate course of action is not to choose where no candidate is adequate. Why would people assume that are irresponsible lazy or disinterested?

I respectfully disagree with that. No matter what one's views are, I firmly believe he should vote. If no candidate is adequate, then ask yourself why. Is it that they are ready to compromise (as politicians inevitably have to do) and you are not? Can it be because none have views in line with yours? Are you ready to compromise and vote for the candidate who is coverage is closest to your views? And if that's not feasible, would you consider running for office yourself?

After all, in case you've got some views that make sense, chances are many others agree with you and possibly the only real way to get your ideas on the table is to run for office yourself.

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despite everything bad that has been occurring in our world,
I believe we all have a better future waiting ,
cause we ruin to reconstruct,

ah reminds of a song by Lennon, Picture...

From personal experience, my main disasters have been my best chances.